The Commentariat -- June 23, 2019
Afternoon Update:
Michael Shear of the New York Times: "President Trump on Sunday shrugged off the brutal dismembering of Jamal Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist, just days after a United Nations report described how a team of Saudi assassins called Mr. Khashoggi a 'sacrificial animal' before his murder. The U.N. report urged an F.B.I. investigation into the slaying. But in an interview with NBC's 'Meet the Press,' Mr. Trump said the episode had already been thoroughly investigated. He said the Middle East is 'a vicious, hostile place' and noted that Saudi Arabia is an important trading partner with the United States.... Mr. Trump also said he was 'not looking for war [with Iran],' but added that if the United States went to war with Iran, 'it'll be obliteration like you've never seen before.'... Mr. Trump also falsely blamed former President Barack Obama for his policy of separating families at the border, lashed out at his Federal Reserve chairman and said the biggest mistake of his presidency was selecting Jeff Sessions to be his attorney general." ...
... Here's the full interview via NBC News. ...
... Dan De Luce of NBC News: "Long before Trump was elected, advocates of the nuclear agreement -- including then-President Barack Obama, French President Emmanuel Macron and others -- had argued that abandoning the accord carried grave risks that could lead to an armed conflict. 'So let's not mince words. The choice we face is ultimately between diplomacy or some form of war -- maybe not tomorrow, maybe not three months from now, but soon,' Obama said in a speech in 2015 defending the deal before a congressional vote.... Obama said that without an agreement limiting Iran's nuclear program in return for sanctions relief, any U.S. administration would be left with only one option to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon -- 'another war in the Middle East.'"
David Boddiger of Splinter: “A day after Donald Trump announced via Twitter that he was postponing nationwide raids by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to deport thousands of families, senior administration officials are furious, blaming acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan for leaking details of the raids to the press. It was no secret that McAleenan opposed the massive operation, which was supposed to target 10 major U.S. cities on Sunday morning, and he had commented to The Washington Post that such raids could risk separating more children from their parents. He also warned that ICE did not have the resources to carry out such sweeping deportation raids.... On Saturday, former ICE acting director and recently named 'border czar' Tom Homan criticized McAleenan during an appearance on Fox & Friends, claiming to know the source of the leak."
Joe Drape of the New York Times: "Another horse died at Santa Anita Park in Southern California on Saturday -- the 30th since Dec. 26 and the fourth this month -- prompting the owners of what has become one of the deadliest racetracks in America to bar Jerry Hollendorfer, the horse's Hall of Fame trainer. American Currency died after a training session Saturday. The horse was the fourth trained by Hollendorfer to die at Santa Anita Park since the meeting opened on Dec. 26. The spike in fatalities at the landmark racetrack has put a bull's-eye on the very existence of one of America's oldest sports. The deaths have prompted an investigation by the Los Angeles County district attorney's office and earned public rebukes from Gov. Gavin Newsom of California and Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California.... The Stronach Group, which owns Santa Anita and six other American racetracks, has blamed corrupt trainers and owners for the deaths...." ...
... Mrs. McCrabbie: I suppose when we have a POTUS* who "shrugs off" the assassination of a political journalist, the suspicious deaths of dozens of racehorses may seem less significant. But just because we have a president* who sees murder as an excusable cultural phenomenon and the abuse of children & asylum-seekers as an acceptable "deterrent" to immigration doesn't mean the rest of us should become desensitized.
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The Latest from the Sadist-in-Chief. Michael Shear & Zolan Kanno-Youngs of the New York Times: "President Trump on Saturday delayed plans for nationwide raids to deport undocumented families, but he threatened to unleash Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in two weeks if Democrats do not submit to changes in asylum law they have long opposed. The announcement, made on Twitter as Mr. Trump was meeting with aides at Camp David, was the president's latest attempt to pressure his adversaries into making immigration changes. Last month, he threatened to levy tariffs on Mexico unless it did more to stop the flow of migrants into the United States.... The specter of high-profile immigration raids had risked imperiling ... passage [of a $4.5 billion humanitarian border aid bill].... Some Democrats, including members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, had threatened to withhold their support for the funding package.... Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Mr. Trump on Friday evening to persuade him to cancel the raids.... The president did that a few hours later, announcing that 'at the request of Democrats, I have delayed the Illegal Immigration Removal Process (Deportation) for two weeks.'... He said he had delayed the raids 'to see if the Democrats and Republicans can get together and work out a solution to the Asylum and Loophole problems at the Southern Border. If not, Deportations start!' he tweeted." ...
... Mrs. McCrabbie: No one can tell me that vicious SOB doesn't get off on throwing his weight around & bullying people. The more helpless his victims, the better. He's a sociopath with the soul of a common criminal. He'll want some fava beans & a nice chianti. ...
... David Boddiger of Splinter: "Trump's constant strategy of dictating irrational or inhumane threats only to call them off at the last minute and claim victory is becoming increasingly common as he eyes reelection in 2020 amid falling poll numbers. In addition to temporarily calling off the raids, which were widely condemned by rights groups, Democrats, and pretty much anyone with a sense of decency, Trump also has threatened to close the U.S.-Mexico border, impose tariffs on all goods imported from Mexico, and attack Iran. Stable genius, indeed.... The nationwide ICE raid, which would have targeted some 2,000 families who had received deportation orders in 10 U.S. cities ... was so unpopular that not even his acting secretary of Homeland Security appeared to be on board. According to The Washington Post's Nick Miroff, Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan had urged ICE, which is part of the agency he runs, to conduct a 'more targeted operation' that would focus on 150 families, instead of thousands.... Trump reportedly bypassed McAleenan and dealt directly with Acting ICE Director Mark Morgan and other ICE officials regarding the details of the raid, which Trump first announced on Twitter last Monday."
David Sanger of the New York Times: "President Trump's last-minute decision to pull back from a retaliatory strike on Iran underscored the absence of appealing options available to him as Tehran races toward ... building up and further enriching its stockpile of nuclear fuel..., [a] program [that] stemmed in substantial part from the president's decision last year to pull out of the 2015 international accord, while insisting that Tehran abide by the strict limits that agreement imposed on its nuclear activities.... The president ... [said] that he planned to impose 'major' additional sanctions [on Iran] on Monday. At the same time, administration officials are beginning to experiment with more aggressive options, including cyberattacks. On Thursday, the United States Cyber Command conducted one such operation against an Iranian intelligence group that is believed to have helped plan the recent attacks against oil tankers...." ...
... Tami Abdollah of the AP: "U.S. military cyber forces launched a strike against Iranian military computer systems on Thursday..., U.S. officials said Saturday. Two officials told The Associated Press that the strikes were conducted with approval from Trump. A third official confirmed the broad outlines of the strike.... The cyberattacks -- a contingency plan developed over weeks amid escalating tensions — disabled Iranian computer systems that controlled its rocket and missile launchers, the officials said. Two of the officials said the attacks, which specifically targeted Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps computer system, were provided as options after Iranian forces blew up two oil tankers earlier this month. The IRGC, which was designated a foreign terrorist group by the Trump administration earlier this year, is a branch of the Iranian military.... In recent weeks, hackers believed to be working for the Iranian government have targeted U.S. government agencies, as well as sectors of the economy, including finance, oil and gas...." ...
... Trump Eyes Ayatollah as Potential BFF. Julian Borger of the Guardian: "Donald Trump has said that if Iran does not acquire a nuclear weapon, it will be prosperous and have the US president as 'a best friend' -- but also warned that the Islamic Republic would be 'obliterated' in any war between the two countries. Trump's remarks on Saturday morning ... are significant in that they differ starkly from the official line of his own administration: that Iran must fulfil a list of 12 US demands before sanctions can be lifted.... Iran has insisted it has no intention of acquiring nuclear weapons and the International Atomic Energy Agency has said there is no recent evidence of development or experimentation with weaponisation." ...
... Juan Cole: "Trump can't get the conservative script right to save his life.... Trump is now citing Iran's non-existent bomb-making as the reason for his breach of the [2015 Iran nuclear] treaty and not mentioning any of the things the hawks mind.... Under [Obama's Iran deal], there is no way Iran can make a bomb without everybody knowing it is trying.... So if what Trump wanted was no Iranian nuke, he had that when he was sworn into office in 2017.... He has stopped Iran from selling its oil, a form of blockade that probably amounts to an act of war. He is also stopping European concerns from investing in Iran. It is frustrating that Trump is dancing on the brink of a war for a purpose that had already been attained. This is why it is bad to elect people to high office who have mental health problems." --s
Patrick Caldwell of Mother Jones: "A day after New York magazine published a bombshell story by journalist E. Jean Carroll that detailed when ... Donald Trump raped her in the mid-1990s, the husband of one of Trump's most prominent aides published an op-ed saying that his fellow Republicans should take the rape accusation seriously. In a Washington Post op-ed, George Conway, the husband of Kellyanne Conway, compared Carroll's account to the allegations Juanita Broaddrick made that former President Bill Clinton had raped her. Trump invited Broaddrick as his guest to the second presidential debate of the 2016 campaign, and Trump, at the time struggling to respond to the release of the Access Hollywood tape, began referring to Broaddrick on the campaign trail to attack his opponent, Hillary Clinton.... 'Trump called Broaddrick "courageous," and if Broaddrick was courageous, then certainly Carroll is as well,' [Conway] writes [in his op-ed]. 'For Carroll's story is at least as compelling as Broaddrick's -- if not more so.'... Back in the 2016 campaign, Kellyanne Conway went on TV to defend Trump's decision to revive the Broaddrick's allegations as part of the presidential campaign." ...
... Katie Sullivan of Media Matters: "A new report of sexual assault committed by ... Donald Trump has come to light, but several major newspapers didn't find the story important enough to place on their front pages.... [E. Jean Carroll's account] is horrific, detailed, and extremely similar to the accounts of numerous other women. It also echoes comments Trump has made in the past, saying in 2005, 'I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.'"
Pamela Brown & Manu Raju of CNN: "The House Judiciary Committee appears to have reached a deal with former White House aide Annie Donaldson that would allow her to not appear before the committee by a Monday deadline and answer written questions instead, according to sources familiar with the matter.... The committee issued a subpoena in May for her testimony by Monday. But Donaldson's attorney and Democrats have discussed allowing her to answer written questions instead, in part because she is pregnant and lives in Alabama. Under the terms outlined, Donaldson would be required to answer questions within a week and the committee would reserve the right to bring her in for testimony after November 1, according to one of the sources.... But how much information Donaldson will ultimately be able to provide the committee is another question. The White House has claimed that current and former White House officials have absolute immunity...."
David Lightman & Ben Wielder of McClatchy DC: "Twenty-five of the 30 states ... Donald Trump won in 2016 have received bigger shares of funding from a federal transportation program that has shifted to favoring rural projects over urban, according to a McClatchy analysis of Department of Transportation data.... The Trump administration insists that the generous tilt towards rural projects was done to compensate for an Obama-era preference for urban grants. Critics, however, say the Trump program has too often focused on its own version of the Three Rs: Rural, Republicans and Roads.... Trump&'s political strength rests in small town and rural communities. Being able to cite road improvements is a valuable political weapon, experts said." --s
Emily Holden of the Guardian: "Senate Democrats are charging that the Trump administration has gone 'dangerously off the rails', in failing to implement landmark legislation meant to protect people from toxic chemicals. In a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency, five senators say Trump officials are ignoring new authorities made available to them, favoring the chemical industry over the health of Americans. The senators are presidential candidate Cory Booker, Tom Udall, Ed Markey, Jeff Merkley and Sheldon Whitehouse.... A recent report from the Environmental Defense Fund finds that EPA has approved more than 80% of the chemicals it reviewed over the past year, clearing them for unrestricted use." --s
The Part of the U.S. Where There Is No Bill of Rights but Plenty of Law Enforcement Officers. Journalist Seth Harp, a U.S. citizen, gets stopped at the Tex-Mex border & subjected to a Customs & Border Protection "secondary screening" where he finds out the hard way he had no Fourth Amendment rights (against unreasonable search & seizure). Also too, no Sixth Amendment rights (to an attorney), Harp reports in the Intercept. First Amendment freedom of speech & of the press? Not so much.
Election 2020
David Corn of Mother Jones: "There's a widespread perception that federal laws ban foreign spending in political races, and that's true, but only to an extent. In addition to the unknown quantities of illegal money pouring into US elections through shell companies and other illicit pathways, gaping loopholes in these laws could allow substantial foreign spending on the 2020 presidential election, fully within the boundaries of the law. The judicial branch has increasingly pried the door open to more foreign spending -- and allowed it to stay secret.... Here are several ways that foreign individuals, companies, and states could influence the 2020 election legally[.]" --s
David Siders & Nolan McCaskill of Politico: "For nearly 90 minutes on a sweat-soaked stage in South Carolina on Friday night, it was almost as if Joe Biden had put the uproar surrounding his comments about segregationists behind him. Speaking at a gathering of 21 presidential candidates here, the former vice president did not mention the controversy from the platform. Nor did his rivals confront him about it directly at Rep. Jim Clyburn's annual fish fry event, a reflection of their reticence to criticize Biden in front of a crowd that adored him.... The meeting of 21 candidates here came at a turning point in the presidential primary. After crisscrossing the country for months on largely divergent paths, the candidates will collide next week for the first primary debates of the campaign. The fish fry -- a mainstay on the presidential campaign circuit where candidates wearing blue Clyburn T-shirts posed for photographs with each other and with members of the crowd -- served as a dress rehearsal for those debates."
Marianne Williamson, "Dangerous Wacko." Jay Michaelson of the Daily Beast: "To most observers, Marianne Williamson's quirky presidential candidacy is a footnote. She's running at around 1 percent in the polls. Few Americans know who she is, even though she's written a few best-sellers and has managed to qualify for the 20-person Democratic debate squad next week. But that may change thanks to Williamson's anti-vaxxer statement last week that policies requiring children to get life-saving vaccines is 'Orwellian' and 'draconian' and that the issue is 'no different than the abortion debate.' Now she's headline news -- at least in the context of the noxious, moronic,
** Ian Millhiser in the New Republic: "Nearly four decades ago, Anne Gorsuch Burford resigned as the head of the Environmental Protection Agency. Though at the helm for less than two years, she left behind a notorious anti-environment legacy, slashing the agency's budget by 22 percent and claiming to have cut the length of clean water regulations by more than 90 percent. Burford died in 2004, but her approach to the planet lives on in her offspring: Neil Gorsuch, Trump's first appointment to the Supreme Court. And on Thursday, Gorsuch proved that he truly is his mother's son handing down an opinion [in dissent] in which he threatens to give Republicans on the Supreme Court veto power over countless federal regulations -- and potentially render the EPA an impotent husk." Brett Kavanaugh did not participate in the decision because he was not on the Court when it heard arguments. "... when the next case arises, Kavanaugh will be there, and that means that there will almost certainly be five votes to write Gorsuch's views into the law. Gorsuch's opinion leaves little doubt that this new Supreme Court regime will seek to dismantle laws that permit agencies to regulate."
Jeff Toobin of the New Yorker: "A Mississippi prosecutor went on a racist crusade to have a black man executed. Clarence Thomas thinks that was just fine.... As [Justice Brett] Kavanaugh recounted in his opinion, [prosecutor Doug] Evans's actions were almost cartoonishly racist.... [Thomas] filed a dissenting opinion that was genuinely outraged — not by the prosecutor but by his fellow-Justices, who dared to grant relief to [the plaintiff Curtis Flowers, who has spent more than two decades in solitary confinement at Mississippi's notorious Parchman prison.... Thomas all but called for the overturning of the Court's landmark decision in Batson v. Kentucky, from 1986, which prohibits prosecutors from using their peremptory challenges in racially discriminatory ways." ...
... Mrs. McCrabbie: Either Thomas is a masochist or he wakes up every morning & sees a KKK wizard in the mirror.
Erin McCormick, et al. of the Guardian: "A Guardian investigation reveals that cities around the country are no longer recycling many types of plastic dropped into recycling bins. Instead, they are being landfilled, burned or stockpiled. From Los Angeles to Florida to the Arizona desert, officials say, vast quantities of plastic are now no better than garbage.... Once the largest buyer of US plastic waste, [China] shut its doors to all but highest-quality plastics in 2017.... Analysis of US export records shows that the equivalent of 19,000 shipping containers of plastic recycling per month, once exported abroad, is now stranded at home. This is enough plastic to fill 250 Olympic swimming pools each month." --s
Beyond the Beltway
Florida. Michael Sasso of Bloomberg News: "... it's increasingly looking like Florida's 1.4 million disenfranchised ex-convicts won’t be the potent voting bloc they might've been. Seven months ago, almost two-thirds of [Florida] voters approved Amendment 4, which restores registration rights to many felons.... Many saw Floridians' vote as bringing the state into the U.S. mainstream.... However, Governor Ron DeSantis [R] is expected to sign a bill within days that critics say will blunt much of Amendment 4's impact. The bill passed by the Republican-led Legislature would require felons to pay off restitution, court fees and fines before registering.... So far, the number of former inmates who have visited a local supervisor of elections office to register has been a modest 2,000, according to one estimate."
Oregon. Anti-Earth Militia Shuts Down State Capitol. Sarah Zimmerman & Gillian Flaccus of the AP: "The Oregon Capitol [was] closed Saturday due to a 'possible militia threat' from right-wing protesters as a walkout by Republican lawmakers over landmark climate change legislation drags on. Republican state senators fled the Legislature -- and some, the state -- earlier this week to deny the majority Democrats enough votes to take up the climate bill.... Gov. Kate Brown then dispatched the state police to round up the rogue lawmakers, but none appeared in the Capitol on Friday and the stalemate seemed destined to enter its third day with a week left in the legislative session. Right-wing groups posted their support for the GOP lawmakers Friday on social media -- in one instance offering to provide escorts to them should the state police come for them. A group of local Republicans were set to protest inside the Capitol on Saturday when lawmakers were present, and anti-government groups threatened to join, prompting the statehouse shutdown. One of the groups, the Oregon Three Percenters, joined an armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016."
Way Beyond
Carole Cadwalladr of the Guardian: Documentary filmmaker Alison Klayman caught Steve Bannon on tape working on copy for Boris Johnson, top contender for prime minister & Telegraph columnist. Release of Klayman's film "The Brink" "is terrible timing for Johnson.... This link to Bannon, like so many things, is something [Johnson] has denied. It was nothing more than 'a lefty delusion', he said last summer.... But what's new and potentially toxic for Johnson is what the apparent relationship with Bannon says about him.... What's no longer in doubt is that Bannonism has entered mainstream British politics. Wherever that may lead." --s
Reader Comments (11)
I see the evolutionary emergence of horns on our heads [see article under Public Service Announcement] coincides directly with younger generations shunning organized religion. The future is going to be a very difficult time for the mike pence's of the world, confined to their safe spaces as the devil incarnate walk the streets.
Then again, it remains to be seen if the horns will take the form of a bighorn sheep or a dik dik antelope. Hail Satan!
@safari: When I was a child (and maybe now), parents commonly said to their children, "If you don't (stop some bad behavior), you're going to grow horns on your head." I think most kids took the threat as metaphorical, but now parents can yell, with some slight gloss of veracity, "If you don't get off that phone, you're going to grow horns on your head."
I want everybody to remember the loathsome monster arguing before the 9th Circuit Court that detained children to not need soap, toothbrushes, or even beds, to be in "safe and sanitary" conditions. Her name is Sarah Fabian, and she should never be granted the anonymity of "Department of Justice attorney" or "government lawyer." If you ever have occasion to comment on America's concentration camps, please try to find a way to include her name. Whenever anyone searches her name for the rest of her life let them discover that Sarah Fabian doesn't believe children need blankets, soap, or toothbrushes. By the way, it is certain, proven by history going back to the 19th Century, that these kinds of camps always deteriorate. Always. They will keep getting worse until the people demand their utter destruction, just like for-profit prisons.
WHAT SHE DID FOR LOVE:
Imagine you are a 27 yr. old female teaching art and acting ( I use this word loosely) as a counselor at a CT. private boarding and day school from February to April of this year. You are a registered Democrat but when Donald Trump first graced the stage at a rally you attended back in 2016 you fall in love. His magnetism enters into your young self reducing you to a blithering sycophant. Much like young girls swooning over the Beatles you become besotted beyond reason. What, you ask yourself, can I do to show my support and adoration for this man. You, in this imaginative scenario, might, being of sound mind and body decide to contribute heavily to the Trump campaign, wear the red hat and wave a lot of flags. This was, however, not what Chelsy Zelasko, the real female in this scenario did:
Chelsy had nude photos taken and posted on the website "Better than the Weeknd.com. She placed the American flag or firearms in front of her "private parts" along with words extolling Trump and his policies. When asked, "what in hell were you thinking?" she responded with this:
"I was willing to pose nude because the media has [have] made this election out to be like a cage fight, but the concept of voting for your president is beautiful and empowering, and that's why I'm doing this, to remind people of that."
Well, alrighty then, but the school, when they learned of this, didn't take kindly to these actions and told her to resign which she refused to do so they fired her. WHAT! she screamed––how dare they and is now suing the school and asking for 15,000 in compensation. I'll keep you posted.
Just a Sunday story to illustrate the fervor of the fevers that have erupted in this age of Humpty Dumpty and all the King's men-tally challenged worker bees.
Praise Jesus!
Even more worrying than Drumpf being the "adult in the room" when it comes to attacking Iran, is the reporting that all of the military brass & DoD people were supportive of the air strikes rumored to have potentially 150 casualties.
The Iranians shot down one of our unmanned drones, that might or might not have skimmed Iranian airspace, we can't say for certain. So the "generals" & Donny Dotard decide on a plan that might involve over a hundred casualties.... Um, guys, weren't there other options, like, say, just lob one missile at the rocket launcher that knocked down the drone? Have the people at DoD and the Pentagon gone mad, proposing huge escalations at the drop of a hat, did Bolton tell the advisors to only give him the worst option, or did Donny ask for higher body counts? This story stinks worse than Trump's child concentration camps at the border.
Woke up still angry, so brought this forward from late last night:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/22/us/politics/trump-ice-raids.html?
Once again, use the vulnerable as hostages in a political fight.
Democrats should accede to nothing.
Let the Pretender twist in the wind created by his own huffing and puffing.
He's made the threat. Now he can do nothing and look weak or do something and look mean.
Who knew immigration and the Middle East...and trade....and healthcare and....could be so complicated?
@Procopius: Sarah Fabian is a career DOJ lawyer. And she's accustomed to making inhumane arguments. As David Graham points out in a readable article that provides the backstory to the government's appalling argument, "Before Sarah Fabian defended concrete floors and bright lights for President Trump, she defended putting kids in solitary confinement for President Obama." Graham also links to a Huff Post story by Mary Papanfuss who discusses reaction to Fabian's performance & is worth a read, too.
@ Procopius: Yes!!! I saw that part of the hearing where the judges were dumfounded at what Sarah had to say. The cruelty here is beyond understanding how anyone could justify it.
THE UNIMAGINABLE REALITY OF AMERICAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Masha Gessen
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-unimaginable-reality-of-american-concentration-camps
@Marie
As much as I wanted to see horns sprout from future cell phone zombies, it appears to be a sham, alas.
The researcher behind the study in the business of selling....you guessed it, posture pillows.
Nothing is sacred.
https://qz.com/1649011/researcher-behind-smartphone-horns-study-sells-posture-pillows/
@safari: Oh noes! I just got off the phone, stood up straight for the first time in months, wound up & pitched my cell into the lake. I could feel the horns receding as the phone left my hand. Could it all have been in my head rather than on my head?
Anyway, the Quartz article does help explain why people like Donald Trump who aren't religious still don't believe in science. Trump, for one, seems to figure (and he's said as much re: climate scientists) that every scientific study is scam -- part of a business model much like his own. Trump thinks all scientists are "scientists" in the same way he is a largely self-made billionaire (except for that measly million-dollar-loan his father gave him early on & he paid back with interest [ha ha]). (Coincidentally, Mike Lindell, who makes & sells in infomercials the U.S.'s own "My Pillow" is a big supporter of President Cadet Bone Spurs. There's a certain symmetry to everything.)
With unregulated private militias in Oregon threatening violence and mayhem over the governors legal order for state police to bring GOP legislators back to do their job it seems that the governor would be within her rights to call out national guard forces to suppress insurrection.
Wonder how that would go over with the GOP?