The Conversation -- December 24, 2023
~~~ Marie: For some reason, YouTube won't let me share this jolly Christmas carol, but click on the photo and you can watch it on YouTube. Is this video too woke to send to the kiddies at the grade school where Ron DeSantimonious' children are enrolled? Thanks to RAS for the lead.
Summer Concepcion of NBC News: "Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco decried Republican claims that the Justice Department has been politicized against ... Donald Trump, saying those accusations have contributed to an 'unprecedented rise' in threats against law enforcement and other officials. In an interview with ABC News that aired Sunday, Monaco, who oversees all Jan. 6-related cases, said that those accusations 'bear no resemblance to the Justice Department that I know. The Justice Department that I know is filled with dedicated men and women, investigators, lawyers, prosecutors, analysts, professional staff,' she said, adding that employees 'get up every day without regard to who's in the White House or who's in Congress...,'...."
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Alan Feuer of the New York Times: "Lawyers for ... Donald J. Trump asked an appeals court in Washington on Saturday night to toss a federal indictment accusing him of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, arguing that he was immune to the charges because they arose from actions he had taken while he was in the White House.... In a 55-page brief to a three-judge panel of the court, D. John Sauer, a lawyer who has been handling appeals for Mr. Trump, argued that under the Constitution, judges cannot hold the president accountable for any acts undertaken while in office.... In his brief to the appeals court, Mr. Sauer argued that executive immunity must exist, given the fact that no president or former president had ever been charged with a crime before Mr. Trump." MB: Right. Like arguing that a murderer can't be charged because no one at his place of business had ever been charged with murder before. ~~~
~~~ CNN's report is here.
He Has No Shame. Michael Bender of the New York Times: "For decades, American elected officials facing criminal charges or grave violations of the public trust would yield their positions of power, if only reluctantly, citing a duty to save the country from embarrassment and ease the strain on its institutions. Then came Donald J. Trump. The former president isn't just forging ahead despite four indictments and 91 felony charges, but actively orchestrating a head-on collision between the nation's political and legal systems.... The heated legal debate over whether Mr. Trump engaged in an insurrection [-- as the Colorado supreme court determined --] obscured the extraordinary reality that he is running for president at all -- returning with fresh vengeance and a familiar playbook built around the notions that he can never lose, will never be convicted and will never really go away. That blueprint remains intact largely because his approach continues to yield political returns." (Also linked yesterday.) ~~~
~~~ Marie: To me, Trump's "successes" say more about the cowardice of Republican officeholders and the moral depravity of broad swaths of the American people than they do about Donald Trump, who is nothing more than a vicious nincompoop.
Abbie VanSickle & Steve Eder of the New York Times: "In the 32 years since Justice [Clarence] Thomas came through the fire of his confirmation hearings and onto the Supreme Court, he has assembled an army of influential acolytes unlike any other -- a network of like-minded former clerks who have not only rallied to his defense but carried his idiosyncratic brand of conservative legal thinking out into the nation's law schools, top law firms, the judiciary and the highest reaches of government."
Steven Mazie & Stephen Vladeck, in a New York Times op-ed, urge the Supremes not to be as ham-handed as the Supreme Court majority was in Bush v. Gore. Marie: No doubt the writers know their advice is offered in vain. (Also linked yesterday.)
Presidential Race 2024
Maegan Vazquez of the Washington Post: "Local and federal law enforcement officials say they are investigating a surge in threats that justices on Colorado's Supreme Court are facing after their decision this week to bar Donald Trump from running in the state's presidential primary.... Since Tuesday's decision by the court, social media and forum posts on several platforms have shown users expressing violent, racist, homophobic and sometimes threatening language targeting the Democrat-appointed judges who ruled in favor of removing Trump from the ballot. The comments have ranged from peaceful protest to calls for executions. In a statement after Tuesday's ruling, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung called the decision 'completely flawed' and attacked the 'all-Democrat appointed Colorado Supreme Court,' claiming it was participating in election interference." ~~~
~~~ Marie: Where are the wingers threatening the Maine judge and secretary of state who kept Chris Christie off the primary ballot for far less egregious conduct -- conduct not specifically prohibited in the U.S. Constitution? According to Leela Stockley of the Bangor Daily News, the secretary decided earlier in December that Christie had not submitted enough signatures to qualify. And the judge ruled, that the Christie camp did not "separate petition forms by town, as instructed by the Secretary, or, in the alternative, give himself sufficient time to bring those multi-town signature sheets to the relevant municipalities before the November 20 deadline." Wow! He didn't separate the petition forms by town? Miscreant! According to the report, Christie submitted only 844 acceptable signatures; 2,000 are required.
Out of curiosity, I took a look at how you qualify for the Maine primary ballot, and among the requirements is "Petitions must be printed double-sided on 8.5 x 14 inch (legal size) paper." IOW, if you submit petitions printed on letter-sized paper (you know, the kind almost everyone uses) or petitions printed on only one side of the page, you may be disqualified. There are two deadlines for filing: the first for filing with counties is November 20; the second for filing with the secretary of state is December 1. Presumably, if a candidate misses the deadlines by even a few hours, he's out. Caught in a snowstorm? Car breaks down? Too bad. These are just a few of the requirements to get on a state ballot, and obviously, the rules are going to vary state-by-state. It would be easy to slip up; it would not be surprising if some candidates were disqualified because of those bureaucratic slip-ups. Yet some people think a state justice should be executed for ruling that the leader of a violent, premeditated coup against the United States is not qualified to be president*.
Maureen Dowd of the New York Times: "The [Roman Catholic] church can't succeed in a time warp, moving at the pace of a snail on Ambien. Even Saudi Arabia is modernizing faster. It is simply immoral to treat women and gay people as unworthy of an equal role in their church. After all, isn't the whole point of the church to teach us what is right? And it's not right to treat people as partial humans." (Also linked yesterday.) ~~~
~~~ News Flash to Observant Christians: The New Testament does not address Jesus' sexual orientation; therefore, there's every reason to believe he was supposed to be gay. He never married -- as Jewish teenaged boys were usually required to do -- and he spent the years of his ministry living and traveling with men. There is at least one hint in the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas that Jesus had a sexual liaison with a woman. However, there is also a hint to the contrary in the Gospel of Mark (14:51-52): "Now a certain young man followed Him, having a linen cloth thrown around his naked body. And the young men laid hold of him, and he left the linen cloth and fled from them naked." Some scholars have asserted this suggested that Jesus and his male followers engaged in group sexual rituals. Dowd is right that the Gospels identify numerous strong women. They are generally portrayed as wiser than the male Gospel characters.
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Massachusetts. Nick Robertson of the Hill: "A federal judge in Massachusetts shut down an attempt to block the state's assault weapons ban Friday, arguing that the law does not break with recent Supreme Court precedent that has severely shaken gun control legislation. District Judge Dennis Saylor said the state ban keeps with 'historical tradition' of gun control regulation, after the high court ruled last year in the landmark New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen decision that all gun control legislation must keep with that tradition."
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Israel/Palestine
The Washington Post's live updates of developments Sunday in the Israel/Hamas war are here: "Israel is waging a military campaign in Gaza at a pace and level of devastation that likely exceeds any recent conflict, according to a Washington Post analysis. A U.N. official criticized Israeli instructions for Palestinians to evacuate parts of central Gaza, saying that Israel 'orders people to move into areas where there are ongoing airstrikes.'... The Israel Defense Forces has expanded ground operations in the southern and northern parts of the Gaza Strip, spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said Saturday, describing the war as 'a long and difficult operation that will continue for some more time.' on a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Biden emphasized the need to protect civilians and free hostages still held by Hamas, The White House said. Netanyahu thanked Biden after the U.S. abstained from voting on a U.N. resolution that demanded pauses in fighting, aid deliveries and the release of hostages." ~~~
~~~ The New York Times' live updates for Sunday are here. CNN's live updates are here.
From CNN's liveblog yesterday: "US President Joe Biden spoke with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Saturday to discuss the latest developments in Israel and Gaza, according to the White House. Biden and Netanyahu discussed 'objectives and phasing' of the Israel-Hamas war during their call according to a White House readout.... 'I did not ask for a ceasefire,' Biden said while leaving the White House Saturday afternoon. 'I had a long talk with Netanyahu today, and it's a private conversation.'" (Also linked yesterday.)
From a Times of Israel liveblog: "Israel was about to 'preemptively' strike Hezbollah in Lebanon four days after Hamas's October 7 massacres, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was talked out of the plan at the last minute by US President Joe Biden, The Wall Street Journal reports, citing unnamed officials familiar with the details. The report says that 'Israel had intelligence -- which the US deemed unreliable -- that Hezbollah attackers were preparing to cross the border as part of a multipronged attack.'" (Also linked yesterday.)
Ukraine, et al.
Constant Méheut of the New York Times: "The Ukrainian police have arrested a senior Defense Ministry official on suspicions that he embezzled nearly $40 million as part of a fraudulent purchase of artillery shells for Ukraine's military. The Ukrainian authorities have been working to clean up the ministry since reports of graft and financial mismanagement led to the removal in September of the minister at the time. Ukraine's security service announced the arrest of the senior official, whose name was not released, on Friday. President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine has also made tackling corruption one of his key wartime goals, not only to reassure Ukraine's Western allies that their billions of dollars in aid are not being siphoned off, but also to ensure an efficient allocation of resources as the country's military runs short on weapons and ammunition in its fight to fend off Russia's forces."
Anton Troianovski, et al., of the New York Times: "Buoyed by Ukraine's failed counteroffensive and flagging Western support, [Vladimir] Putin says that Russia's war goals have not changed. Addressing his generals on Tuesday, he boasted that Ukraine was so beleaguered that Russia's invading troops were doing 'what we want.... We won't give up what's ours,' he pledged, adding dismissively, 'If they want to negotiate, let them negotiate.' But in a recent push of back-channel diplomacy, Mr. Putin has been sending a different message: He is ready to make a deal. Mr. Putin has been signaling through intermediaries since at least September that he is open to a cease-fire that freezes the fighting along the current lines, far short of his ambitions to dominate Ukraine...." (Also linked yesterday.)
Reader Comments (13)
"To me, Trump's "successes" say more about the cowardice of Republican officeholders and the moral depravity of broad swaths of the American people than they do about Donald Trump, who is nothing more than a vicious nincompoop," Marie says, spot on.
But I would add the 400 plus million he inherited from his father didn't hurt.
A fundamental flaw in the American psyche is our tendency to take monied people seriously, just because they're rich. Or maybe we take their money seriously and they just come along as part of the gilded package.
We sure took this rich buffoon with all his glaringly obvious moral and intellectual failings so seriously we (with a little help from an undemocratic constitution) actually made him presidunce.
Not all billionaires are created equal and they're not all like Herr
Trump.
We have one at the end of our street; a summer cottage on the river.
(Not Betsy, she's two blocks the other direction).
If you didn't know who he was or what he owns you'd think he was
just a working class retiree like the rest of us here. No linousine,
no servants, no gold plated toilets. He walks his own dog and
occasionally stops to admire the garden.
Herr Trump wouldn't give us the time of day if he happened to walk
past, or glide by in his golf cart.
Forrest,
You make a critical distinction. The wealthy near neighbor you mention apparently doesn't suffer from the fatal flaw I mentioned.
Neither he nor his ego confuses his money with his worth.
There are such often admirable people in our midst, but I fear they are the exception.
BTW, Merry Christmas Eve to all. Calm and a little chilly here in the Northwest, with a beautiful rose sunrise an early Christmas gift.
Merry Christmas Eve to all. Thank you, especially Marie, for keeping me relatively sane. It's an honor to hang out with all of you.
@Jack Mahoney: I'll drink to that! It must be cocktail time somewhere in the world.
It's not cocktail time down here in the Swamp State but I guess that a working mans beer will do.
I've been looking back in time trying to figure out just when the Republican party I knew as a young man died. It was still gasping for air in the Regan era, and survived Gingrich and Bush 43. But it was dead before Trump. all he needed was to put the MAGAt moniker to the corpse.
Like the rest of y'all, I'm grateful for this site with an exchange of facts and opinions hard to find in this polarized day.
@Bobby Lee: Here's an article from Feb 16, 2016, written by
Robert Reich explaining when and why the Republican party died.
Sorry, forgot the link:
https://robertreich.org/post/139385548525
Ghosts of Republicans Past
Hear hear to all here at RC, and especially to Marie, whose hard work does not go unappreciated by any of us here.
Merry Christmas to all - my very nonreligious mother was a big believer that everyone can have a Merry Christmas. After all, she said, why should we miss out on all the (cookies, light, presents etc) fun??
I and Christmas don't get along well. In fact, I often wish that I could crucify the person who thought of the holiday. Regardless, if I'm forced to listen to the incessant Xmas music, this album by John Fahey is my go-to favorite...
Merry Christmas to all and many thanks to Marie.
Unwashed,
A good choice. Love that album, and the title bodes well for the coming year when we might see things turn away from chaos, hatred, lies, criminality, and fascism: The New Possibility.
A merry merry to all out here, and to our gracious hostess always at the ready to update us on the Naughty List.