The Conversation -- November 8, 2023
Marie: Don't forget to miss tonight's GOP presidential* debate. Not sure when it is or where it airs. Easy enough to find out. Don't care.
Luke Broadwater of the New York Times: "House Republicans on Wednesday issued subpoenas demanding testimony from Hunter and James Biden, the president's son and brother, as they hunt for evidence to try to build an impeachment case against him. Representative James R. Comer, Republican of Kentucky and the chairman of the Oversight Committee, authorized the subpoenas of President Biden's family members as well as Rob Walker, one of their business associates. It was the most significant move in the impeachment inquiry since Republicans announced they were opening it in September, despite no evidence that the president had committed high crimes or misdemeanors.... Also on Wednesday, Mr. Comer demanded that other Biden family members submit to transcribed interviews. He sent letters seeking interviews to Sara Biden; Hallie Biden, the widow of Beau Biden, the president's older son; Elizabeth Secundy, Hallie Biden's sister; Melissa Cohen, who is married to Hunter Biden; and Tony Bobulinski, a former associate of Hunter Biden's who has accused the Bidens of wrongdoing." CNN's story is here. ~~~
~~~ Marie: Really? The sister of the widow of the deceased brother of the living son of the President? I'm surprised they didn't subpoena Joe & Jill Bidens' dogs, too. Then, instead of biting themselves in the ass with another failed fishing expedition, Commander could do the job for them.
Brandi Buchman of Law & Crime: "In a 3-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan ordered [Donald] Trump to finally declare whether he intends to use an 'advice of counsel' defense at his criminal trial in the nation's capital no later than Jan. 15, 2024. Prosecutors asked the judge in October to set a Dec. 18 deadline, sharing concerns that Trump was waiting 'until the eve of trial' to formally declare his strategy."
Here are the New York Times' live updates of Ivanka Trump's testimony in the Trump Family Fraud case. Excerpts, in descending order, below: ~~~
Jonah Bromwich Fashion News: "Ivanka Trump enters. She's wearing a dark suit and white shirt."
Bromwich: On the stand and being questioned by prosecutor Louis Solomon, "She says she does not believe that she's done any work for the company since January 2017."
Bromwich: "Ivanka Trump testifies that her husband, Jared Kushner, introduced her to an important contact at Deutsche Bank, Rosemary Vrablic. Trump says that she had heard that Vrablic was a 'formidable' banker with a lot of experience and says she was happy to make the connection with her."
Bromwich: "Ivanka Trump sounds polished as she describes the Trump Organization's interest in Doral [a Trump Org-owned golf club in the Miami area, which is a big money-loser]."
Kate Christobek Courtroom Etiquette Notes: "Ivanka Trump's demeanor on the stand is the polar opposite of her father's. She's soft spoken and seems to be carefully choosing her words."
Susanne Craig: "It's clear Ivanka Trump was deeply involved in the financing of Doral and the Old Post Office in Washington that became the Trump International Hotel. But she says she doesn't remember much. She has said 'I don't recall" or a version of it multiple times now."
Bromwich: "We're looking at what could be an important email exchange. A lawyer at the Trump Organization said that the net worth covenant -- the one that required Donald Trump to maintain a minimum net worth of $3 billion -- would be a problem. But Ivanka Trump responded that it was known from the outset that the only way to get a 'great rate' on a loan is to guarantee the deal in this way. Again, this underscores [AG Letitia] James's claim: That the statements of financial condition, and Donald Trump's overall net worth, allowed the Trump Organization to get such great terms from banks."
Bromwich: "Ivanka Trump is asked about the annual financial statement, and she says -- as her brothers did -- that she was not involved and does not know which valuations it took into account."
Christobek: "Right before the break, Ivanka Trump appeared to be getting annoyed at the questions about her father's financial statements."
Bromwich: "Ivanka Trump is now being asked about the General Services Administration meeting and she continues to drown the specifics about the financial statements in the generalities of the proposal for developing the Old Post Office. 'I don't recall them having discussed financial statements specifically,' she says. 'The whole meeting was mainly about our vision for the project.'"
Christobek. Body Language: "Ivanka Trump’s testimony has been calm and controlled, even as the attorneys have occasionally argued with each other. But, like her father, she becomes animated when talking about Trump Organization projects, using hand gestures like she's conducting a presentation."
Bromwich: "... she again that she does not remember what she made from the [Washington, D.C.,] Old Post Office sale."
Craig: "It's important to remember that Ivanka Trump and her brothers owned a stake in the Old Post Office hotel lease in Washington. It was sold in 2022 and Ivanka was shown an exhibit that indicated her father received $126 million from the sale. She got approximately $4 million."
Bromwich: Defense attorney Jesus "Suarez is starting by asking Ivanka Trump direct questions about her professed noninvolvement with the annual financial statements, including whether she was responsible for submitting them or assigning specific values. She says no."
Craig: "Ivanka Trump is talking about how successful the redevelopment of the Old Post Office was. She hasn't mentioned the hotel never turned a profit; it lost more than $74 million under the Trumps' ownership."
Bromwich: "The judge has lost his patience and is telling Christopher Kise, a defense lawyer, that he does not appreciate frequent insinuations that he is biased against the Trump legal team. Kise has often pointed out that the judge rules in favor of the attorney general far more often than he does the Trump team. 'You could try to surmise that that's because of bias or you could try to understand that I think their objections have been of greater validity than yours,' Justice Engoron responds."
Bromwich Boo Hoo Hoo: "Suarez, the defense lawyer, appears to have lost his temper about the government laughing at his questions 'They're laughing. They're sitting back here laughing,' he says, pointing. 'They think this is funny. This is not funny.' He says he wants the record to reflect the government is laughing at its own attempts to 'destroy this country.'"
Bromwich: "The government rests its case, but reserves its right to call Allen Weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of the Trump Organization."
CNN's live updates are here.
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Election Results
** Kentucky Governor: Democratic incumbent Andy Beshear is ahead 52.5% to 47.5% for Republican Daniel Cameron, with more than 95% of the vote counted. NBC News has called the election for Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear. ~~~
~~~ Bridget Bowman of NBC News: "Beshear's re-election in a state President Joe Biden lost by 26 percentage points in 2020 was due in part to the unique brand he has built in Kentucky, separate from the national party. But the victory is still a welcome sign for Democrats ahead of next year's presidential race, with recent governor's elections in Kentucky having previewed presidential victories to come. In his bid for a second term, Beshear leveraged the popularity he built over the last four years, touting the state's economic progress and his response to natural disasters, including devastating floods." The Washington Post's story is here.
Mississippi Governor: GOP incumbent Tate Reeves is ahead with 51.8% of the vote, and 46.9% for Democrat Brandon Presley, with moe than 95% of the vote counted. NBC News has declared Reeves the winner.
** Ohio Issue 1 -- Right to Abortion: The state constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion rights is ahead 56.6% to 43.4%, with more than 95% of the votes cast. The New York Times estimates that the amendment, which requires only a 50%+1 vote, will pass. At 9:00 pm ET Tuesday, NBC News projected that the amendment will pass. ~~~
~~~ Kate Zernike of the New York Times: "Ohio voters resoundingly approved a ballot measure enshrining a right to abortion in the State Constitution, according to The Associated Press, continuing a winning streak for abortion-rights groups that have appealed directly to the public as they try to recover from the United States Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade. Issue 1, as the ballot measure is known, had become the country's most-watched race in the off-year elections, as both parties try to gauge whether voter anger over the loss of the federal right to abortion could help Democrats in next year's presidential and congressional races.... While abortion-rights groups prevailed in six out of six state ballot measures last year, Ohio was considered the toughest fight yet.... From the governor and attorney general on down, [state Republicans] had leaned on the power of their offices to try to thwart the measure." A related ABC News story is here. ~~~
~~~ President Biden's statement, via the White House, is here.
Ohio Issue 2 -- Legalize Marijuana: the vote that would legalize the possession, use & sale of marijuana for people 21 and older, with 95% of the vote counted, is ahead 57.0% to 43.0%.
** Virginia State Legislature results are here. Of the state senate races that have been called as of 7:00 am ET Wednesday, Democrats are ahead 21 to 17 GOP senators. Of the state house of delegates races that have been called as of the same time, Democrats are ahead 51 to 47 seats. The AP has called both houses for Democrats. ~~~
~~~ Michael Wines of the New York Times: “Democrats retook full control of the Virginia General Assembly, The Associated Press reported, handing a defeat to Gov. Glenn Youngkin, a Republican who had poured millions of dollars and his personal political capital into expanding power for his party in the legislature. The Democratic Party not only maintained its narrow hold on the State Senate, but also captured control of the House of Delegates, where Republicans had held a 48-to-46 majority since 2021." ~~~
~~~ Laura Vozzella & Teo Armus of the Washington Post: "By giving control of those two chambers to Democrats, voters denied [Gov. Glenn] Youngkin (R) the political allies he needed to ban most abortions after 15 weeks. The governor also lost his chance for turning Virginia sharply to the right in other areas, including public education, tax policy, LGBTQ+ rights, criminal justice, the environment and voting access." NPR's story is here.
Vote totals above via the New York Times. CNN has all its results on this page.
Other Races:
Tracey Tully of the New York Times: "Democrats in New Jersey appeared likely to retain a comfortable majority in the Assembly and the Senate, according to early results from The Associated Press in Tuesday's races.... As of 11:30 p.m., Democrats had held on to win in competitive districts in southern and central New Jersey and were leading in other key races."
Philadelphia, Pa. Mayor: David Chen & Joel Wolfram of the New York Times: "Cherelle Parker, a longtime state and local elected official who promised Philadelphia residents that she would aggressively tackle the city's crime woes, was elected mayor Tuesday, according to The Associated Press, making her the first woman voted into the city's highest office."
A very tough night for many mainstream journalist and pundits. They will have to work all night long to turn this into the story of why it’s bad for Democrats. https://t.co/KTZZCgRPJ5
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) November 8, 2023
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Leader of Chaos Caucus Sez "Trust Us." Jacob Bogage & Jeff Stein of the Washington Post: "Congress appeared deadlocked Tuesday on a path to avert a federal shutdown in less than two weeks, as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) floated a plan to finance the government that drew criticism from senators of both parties. Johnson told Americans to 'trust us,' as he pitched a staggered Republican approach to fund the government, one that has little chance of success in the Democratic-controlled Senate. Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) hours later admonished the speaker and Republicans for fiscal brinkmanship."
Kayla Guo of the New York Times: "The House voted on Tuesday to censure Representative Rashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan, formally rebuking the sole Palestinian American in Congress for her statements regarding the Israel-Hamas war. Twenty-two Democrats joined most Republicans to pass the resolution, which accuses Ms. Tlaib of 'promoting false narratives' surrounding Hamas's Oct. 7 attack on Israel and of 'calling for the destruction of the state of Israel.' The vote was 234 to 188. Four Republicans voted against censuring Ms. Tlaib, while one Democrat and three Republicans voted 'present,' declining to take a position. After the gavel fell, Democratic lawmakers, mostly progressives, surrounded Ms. Tlaib on the floor and embraced her. The Democratic support for reprimanding one of their own reflected an increasingly intense division in the party over the Israel-Hamas war."
Miss Margie's Don't-Pay-Gay Bill. Katherine Tully-McManus of Politico: "The House GOP moved to reduce Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's salary to just $1, the conference's latest move as conservatives have explored using obscure funding rules to exact political pain on the Biden administration. The cut for Buttigieg was adopted by voice vote as an amendment to the fiscal 2024 Transportation-HUD spending bill and was put forth by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.). The bill still needs to be approved by the full House but stands no chance at approval from the Democratic-controlled Senate."
Catherine Rampell of the Washington Post delves into Mike Johnson's mysterious banking practices and reveals the rather unsatisfactory explanation: "... early Tuesday morning, Politico reported that his office told its own reporter that Johnson does indeed have a bank account. His account does not pay interest, though, which makes it exempt from House disclosure rules. Holding your family's entire savings in a non-interest-bearing account is a strange choice for a high-income household, particularly during a period of high inflation. But more important, this arrangement still leaves voters in the dark about Johnson's financial well-being. Whatever Johnson's motivation for managing his money this way, the effect is to obscure what his resources actually look like and whether he's under the kind of financial strain that other parts of his disclosures might suggest."
Devlin Barrett & Jacqueline Alemany of the Washington Post: "David Weiss, the federal prosecutor tapped to serve as special counsel investigating Hunter Biden, testified Tuesday behind closed doors to a House committee, telling lawmakers that he has had full authority over the case and has not been overruled at any point by other Justice Department officials. It is highly unusual for the Justice Department to make a special counsel available for questioning by Congress before an investigation is complete. Weiss did so in large part to address lingering concerns raised by two IRS agents on the Biden case who earlier this year accused Weiss and other Justice Department officials of slow-walking their work. One of the agents said Weiss told him he wasn't the decision-maker in the case. Weiss, the U.S. attorney in Delaware [MB: and a Trump appointee], has disputed that claim and did so again in his opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee. Citing the IRS agents' accounts, Republican lawmakers have accused the Justice Department under President Biden of stalling the politically sensitive investigation. On Tuesday, GOP committee members said they found Weiss's account unconvincing...." The CBS News story is here. ~~~
~~~ Marie: You can tell the Irish, you can tell the Dutch. You can tell Republicans, but you can't tell 'em much.
The Trials of Trump, Ctd.
Ben Protess, et al., of the New York Times: "Ivanka Trump on Wednesday will become the fourth member of her family to testify in a civil case brought by the New York attorney general.... Ms. Trump was initially a defendant like her father, brothers and the Trump Organization itself, but an appeals court dismissed the case against her [MB: because the state's statute of limitations had run out on most of her Trump Org activities].... Ms. Trump played a central role in setting up some of the company's relationships with financial institutions -- particularly Deutsche Bank.... She sought to avoid taking the stand, but the court required her participation.... Ms. Trump also hired her own lawyer, separate from the legal team representing her family in [AG Letitia] James's case.... The last time Ms. Trump testified about her father -- before a congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol -- it was a major embarrassment for the former president." A CBS News report is here.
Marie: Yesterday I linked NYT and NBC News stories about Jack Smith's filings in the D.C. election interference case. Rachel Weiner, et al., of the Washington Post make an important point that the other stories do not: "Special counsel prosecutors said Monday ... they don't need to prove whether Trump believed he lost the race.... The Justice Department ... [said] that what they need to prove is not that Trump believed the 'Big Lie' of the election being stolen but that he knowingly spread associated lies in a criminal scheme to stay in power.... Prosecutors said they will point to several specific claims made by Trump and his unindicted co-conspirators to prove the 'deceit' that is necessary to prove fraud against the United States, one of the four charges he faces in D.C. Those include various baseless allegations that dead or ineligible voters cast ballots, that voting machines changed votes from Trump to Biden or that election workers added fake ballots for Biden to vote totals. In each case, prosecutors said in the indictment, Trump and his allies had been informed the claims were false. Prosecutors say deceit can also be shown through co-conspirator Rudy Giuliani's false assurances to 'fake electors' that they would only be deployed if litigation changed the election results." (Also linked yesterday.)
Stephen Collinson of CNN: "The judge in Donald Trump's civil fraud trial despairingly pressed the ex-president's lawyer: 'I beseech you to control him if you can.... And the answer, as always, was no, Trump cannot be controlled. No mere lawyer could impose the kind of discipline that two-and-a-half centuries of constitutional checks and balances could not provide during Trump's time in office or since.... Trump's combative defense ... revealed insights into Trump's relentless refusal to give an inch to his enemies and showed why voters who despise East Coast authority figures and liberal societal codes adore him." (Also linked yesterday.)
Adam Liptak of the New York Times: "The Supreme Court seemed ready on Tuesday to rule that the government may disarm people under domestic violence orders, limiting the sweep of last year's blockbuster decision that vastly expanded gun rights. Several conservative justices, during a lively if largely one-sided argument, seemed to be searching for a narrow rationale that would not require them to retreat substantially from a new Second Amendment test the court announced last year in giving people a broad right to arm themselves in public. Under the new standard, the justices said courts must look to history to assess the constitutionality of gun control measures. But conservative justices seemed prepared on Tuesday to accept that a judicial finding of dangerousness in the context of domestic violence proceedings was sufficient to support a federal law making it a crime for people subject to such orders to possess guns -- even if there was no measure from the founding era precisely like the one at issue in the case." (Also linked yesterday. This is an update of a story linked yesterday before the Court heard arguments.)
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Wisconsin. Praveena Somasundaram of the Washington Post: "As the mayor of Milwaukee signed a resolution Monday to help curb reckless driving incidents, Police Chief Jeffrey Norman stood behind him at the news conference. Norman implored Milwaukee residents to drive safely and legally.... But shortly after Norman left the news conference, a dump truck crashed into his SUV, according to local media reports. The driver of the truck rear-ended Norman's vehicle when trying to switch lanes at a red light, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. The crash happening right after the reckless driving conference was 'cruelly coincidental,' Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson said in a statement Monday. Norman and another officer who was in the car were treated for non-life-threatening injuries, police said."
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Israel/Palestine
The New York Times' live updates of developments Wednesday in the Israel/Hamas war are here. CNN's live updates are here. ~~~
~~~ The Washington Post's live updates for Wednesday are here: "Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Israel should not reoccupy Gaza, after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed that Israel would assume responsibility for Gaza's security 'for an indefinite period.' Blinken told reporters that 'Gaza cannot continue to be run by Hamas' but that 'it's also clear that Israel cannot occupy Gaza.' Blinken left open the possibility of a 'transition period' after the war, adding it is 'imperative that the Palestinian people be central to the governance of Gaza and the West Bank.' He spoke in Tokyo, where the Group of Seven nations backed the U.S. push for 'humanitarian pauses' in Israel's assault on Gaza, while stopping short of calling for a cease-fire."
Lisa Friedman of the New York Times: "The White House cautioned Israel on Tuesday against reoccupying Gaza after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu suggested that his country could hold a security role there 'for an indefinite period' once the war is over. 'We're having active discussions with our Israeli counterparts about what post-conflict Gaza looks like,' John Kirby, the White House national security spokesman, told reporters. 'The president maintains his position that reoccupation by Israeli forces is not the right thing to do.' The words of caution came after Mr. Netanyahu said Israel would need to oversee the security of the Gaza Strip once the fighting is over to prevent future attacks. Mr. Netanyahu, in an interview with ABC News, did not say who should govern the enclave after Hamas, which now controls it, is gone. But he said he thought Israel would 'have the overall security responsibility' over the territory indefinitely."
Bangladesh. About Your Pretty Clothes. Saif Hasnat of the New York Times: "Days after violent protests over wages as low as $80 a month, officials in Bangladesh said on Wednesday they would increase the pay of garment workers by about 50 percent, a concession that appeared to fall short of satisfying thousands of workers who produce clothes for brands like H&M and Zara.... The garment industry accounts for more than 80 percent of Bangladesh's annual exports of about $55 billion, and it is seen as the key driver of Bangladesh's economic growth in recent decades. More than 50 percent of employees in the industry are women, in a region with abysmal female participation in the formal work force."
Ukraine, et al. Siobhán O'Grady of the Washington Post: "After months of heavy losses in a largely stalled counteroffensive against Russia, tension among Ukraine's senior leaders has spilled awkwardly into the open in recent days -- prompting President Volodymyr Zelensky to call for a halt to political infighting.... He warned that shattered unity could have drastic consequences: 'The situation is now the same as it was before -- if there is no victory, there will be no country.'"
Reader Comments (16)
In the voting booth yesterday, I decided to forego filling in the little square that authorized a straight Democratic ticket in order to have the pleasure of filling in the box next to Andy Beshear’s name, to keep that unqualified Trump manqué, Daniel Cameron, anywhere but the governor’s office. And I know that, as Marie pointed out yesterday, it’s not always the best idea to vote a straight party ticket, especially if you don’t know much about either candidate, but here in Kentucky, everyone with an R after their name is an election denying Trumpbot, so fuck every last one of ‘em. And no, I don’t know much about either candidate for agriculture commissioner, except that one of them supports treason and the other doesn’t. That’s good enough for me.
The dirty diaper PoT crybabies who constantly whine about cancel culture sure do more than their share of canceling.
What now?
This Mike Collins jamoke (not the Apollo 11 Mike Collins, some other Mike Collins who should be shot up to the moon) from Georgia, has decided to stop Kamala Harris from doing anything about the tsunami of gun violence. He wants to defund the Vice President’s office.
Never mind that the Constitution says we need a VP, that old piece of paper is only hauled out to say “Guns, guns, and more guns!”
And here’s the thing. No one believes this cockamamie bullshit will ever pass. It doesn’t matter. These assholes never stop throwing shit at the wall to see what might stick. If nothing else, it gets him on Faux to commiserate with some gun knobber douchebags about how their freeeedom is being stolen by an uppity black broad.
It appears the pro-lifers are the asp that the R's have clasped to their chest.
Mississippi GOP is having a fit over a county chancery court judge in Hinds county granting an hours extension in voting hours due to a large shortage of ballots. Here's their petition to the Mississippi State Supreme Court.
https://twitter.com/radamsWAPT/status/1722067421471633916
In my pretty blue, but also heavily military, NoVa precinct (where I had been the election chief for over a decade until VA made the mistake of electing an R governor so I’m now relegated to being an assistant chief - can’t wait till 2026 when I’ll go back to where I belong) the Rs pulled out all the stops to get their guys to win. When their preferred “Democratic” (really an R in disguise) candidate didn’t win the primary for commonwealth attorney (the Virginia version of DA), they mounted a write-in campaign to try to get him on through the back door. And lost big anyway.
The inlaws in Ohio will be lamenting the abortion rights addition to
their constitution. They were all against it, die hard trumpsters and
anti anything Democratic.
At least they have something to fall back on. The marijuana bill
passed so they can light up and forget their troubles (sounds like a song).
Hey kids, don't forget, the 3rd Republican debate is tonight at 8:00 PM.
I won't be watching since I no longer have cable for TV.
Besides, would rather watch paint dry than a Republican debate
(lie fest).
The reports on speaker Mike Johnson get weirder by the day.
Seems he and his 17 year old son are signed up for a 3rd party
internet group ($16.99 per month, each) that checks all the porn
sights the two see, and then reports back to each other what the
other one did.
But wouldn't Jesus also know?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-johnson-son-monitoring-other-
154928238.html
Hey mom, we need to talk about dad's internet report this week, eww.
Those poor CEOs are always having to put up with so much.
WSJ "The New Headache for Bosses: Employees Aren’t Quitting"
Huff Post
"Exonerated ‘Central Park Five’ Member Yusef Salaam Wins New York City Council Seat"
Rick Santorum is lamenting "pure democracies" where major
decisions are left up to voters rather than elected officials. "It causes
too many young people come out and vote."
I think he's trying to say the voters aren't voting the was R's want
them to, so we need more voter suppression and voter restrictions and
more gerrymandering.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bemoaning-ohio-results-santorum-says-
1502365`07.html
“I’m never wrong!”
Here’s Fatty just a few days ago, bragging about how his endorsement of Daniel Cameron in Kentucky was making all the difference:
“Wow, Daniel Cameron of Kentucky has made a huge surge, now that they see my strong Endorsement…Go Daniel, great future for you and your State—You will bring it to new levels of success, and I will help you!”
And after Cameron got his ass kicked? He’s just one more carcass under the Trump bus:
“Daniel Cameron lost because he couldn’t alleviate the stench of Mitch McConnell. I told him early that’s a big burden to overcome,”
Yeah, right. Cameron’s loss had nothing to do with his tethering his campaign to a fat traitor. Of course it also had a lot to do with the fact that Andy Beshear is a great governor who does actual work for the state, unlike most R pols, and definitely unlike the previous R governor, Matt Bevin, a shifty grifting scumbag who worked for himself and his donors (actually pardoning the son of one of his biggest donors who was found guilty of murder!!).
The Trump Endorsement works only in places where it’s not needed. Just like him. But, of course, he’s not to blame for any bad outcomes.
The updates on Princess Ivanka’s descending from the clouds to talk to the little people, posted above by Marie, offers the following report:
“She says she does not believe that she’s done any work for the company since January 2017.”
I think it would be more accurate for that quote to have been cut off after the word “work”.
Unless making reservations for skiing in Aspen or deciding on the wallpaper for her mega mansion in Florida can be considered work.
Forrest,
You sure that's not a porn-sharing site for a father and son who want to be sure not to miss any?
Akhilleus,
Convincing suckers to buy nonexistent apartments does qualify as work when you are a nepo baby.